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Post by earthmother on Feb 28, 2004 17:19:20 GMT -5
Just for the record, every time I get a solicitation from the Democratic Party, I have sent back a detailed letter explaining to them that I will NOT be sending them any money until they support Al Gore and do what they can to get him to run again. I have told them, in no uncertain terms, that I believe their lack of support for him was reprehensible back in 2000 and that they're fools for not recognizing that he was the one best candidate to run again in 2004. Perhaps if they'd actively supported him, he'd have been more likely to stay in the race this time around.
As for our letters to Gore himself, I'm quite puzzled at how you interpret those as harassment. The letters very clearly are laudatory, sympathetic, and supportive of him and everything he believes in. I do understand your point about getting on the DNC's and DLC's case, and, as I stated above, that has been done by many of us already. These new letters we're sending Gore are just so he'll know that he still has our support in case there's any question in his mind of somehow getting in in 2004.
What we've written are fan letters. I doubt rock stars or super-athletes are offended by their fans' letters, and I doubt that Mr. Gore is either.
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Post by restoredemocracy on Feb 29, 2004 0:10:49 GMT -5
To Gore Supporter in NJ, I have written to the DLC/DNC as well as to all of the democratic members of Congress. I've done like earthmother as any time I've gotten a fundaising leter from the DNC. I'm really sick of your harrassment of Al Gore when the problem is the DLC/DNC. We wouldn't be in the mess we're currently in for a candidate for 2004 had the DLC/DNC not betrayd Al Gore. What's so dificult for you to understand about that? Do I need to draw you a picture? Despite this fact, you continue to harrass AlGore instead of confronting the real problem which is the DLC/DNC. Why do you continue to refuse to confront the DLC/DNC? I think it's a fair question in lite of Tinkerbell's eloquent post that documented the DLC/DNC's betrayal of Al Gore. To Gore Leadership, the address I have for the DLC is a snail mail address. It's: Att: Al From C/O DLC 600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, D.C. 200003 Thanks for writing your letter.
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Post by ErinB on Feb 29, 2004 1:22:39 GMT -5
Writing letters does not constitute harrassment. It seems we've been down this road before...and this sounds awfully familiar. hmmm It is true IMO that the DLC betrayed Gore..I think everyone here agrees on that.
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Feb 29, 2004 11:03:53 GMT -5
To Gore Supporter in NJ, I have written to the DLC/DNC as well as to all of the democratic members of Congress. I've done like earthmother as any time I've gotten a fundaising leter from the DNC. I'm really sick of your harrassment of Al Gore when the problem is the DLC/DNC. We wouldn't be in the mess we're currently in for a candidate for 2004 had the DLC/DNC not betrayd Al Gore. What's so dificult for you to understand about that? Do I need to draw you a picture? Despite this fact, you continue to harrass AlGore instead of confronting the real problem which is the DLC/DNC. Why do you continue to refuse to confront the DLC/DNC? I think it's a fair question in lite of Tinkerbell's eloquent post that documented the DLC/DNC's betrayal of Al Gore. To Gore Leadership, the address I have for the DLC is a snail mail address. It's: Att: Al From C/O DLC 600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, D.C. 200003 Thanks for writing your letter. I already wrote a letter two weeks ago, and the month before that, and at least ten times before that. The question was answered. You obviously REFUSE to read it because it proves you are wrong, as you have some personal vendetta here because you were banned from this forum under your other name. I see you are here to continue, and it is obvous it is personal. Let it be known then, that you will also not be allowed to disrupt this forum under any other name either. Write your letters, and give your support to Al Gore if you truly feel sincere about that. You however, neither tell me here who to support, what to write, or who to write to. I KNOW the story and I HAVE done my part and will continue to. I also don't need to validate my opinions to you. BTW, when are you planning to start a PAC, or hold a demonstration YOURSELF outside the DLC headquarters? Let us know when YOU decide to take action yourself, instead of being like so many who sit pontificating to others and expecting THEM to do it for them, while they sit and complain. I don't recall seeing you on the nightly news either. Jan
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Post by ErinB on Feb 29, 2004 11:12:09 GMT -5
Oh boy...lets not take the bait... So, uh, how are the Superdelegate letters going? Should I send one to Joe Leiberman?
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Post by restoredemocracy on Feb 29, 2004 11:22:07 GMT -5
I Think it's pretty sad that you continue to refuse to confront the real problem so elquently documented in Tinkerbell's post which is the DLC/DNC's betrayal of Al Gore. This fact speaks for itself and I cant change this fact ether. It's clear that you're hellbent on only harassing Al Gore instead of implementing a solution that deals with the real problem of the DNC/DLC. It's our country that will pay for generations for your refusal to cofront the real problem while you instead continue your harrassment of the victim in all of this Al Gore. You should be ashamed.
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Post by earthmother on Feb 29, 2004 15:41:10 GMT -5
restoredemocracy--The LAST thing I want to do is get in the middle of something here, but now I think it is YOU who are not reading what we have said. I answered you, and now Jan has directly addressed your criticism and said that she has written to the DNC/DLC, as in
So where's the problem? I felt your point was well-taken, that the DNC/DLC are a large part of why Gore didn't run, and therefore we should write to them. Most of us have already done that quite a few times and will continue to. We have answered you that we agree with that point, and we have acted, either on our own or at your suggestion.
We are writing to the DNC, the DLC, and Al Gore. So where's the beef?
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Feb 29, 2004 16:25:09 GMT -5
restoredemocracy--The LAST thing I want to do is get in the middle of something here, but now I think it is YOU who are not reading what we have said. I answered you, and now Jan has directly addressed your criticism and said that she has written to the DNC/DLC, as in So where's the problem? I felt your point was well-taken, that the DNC/DLC are a large part of why Gore didn't run, and therefore we should write to them. Most of us have already done that quite a few times and will continue to. We have answered you that we agree with that point, and we have acted, either on our own or at your suggestion. We are writing to the DNC, the DLC, and Al Gore. So where's the beef? Sometimes I wonder about those who say they support Al Gore, yet trash people who do support him. I say, we just move on, as this thread started out on a positive note, and I believe it should remain so. Jan
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Feb 29, 2004 16:27:40 GMT -5
Oh boy...lets not take the bait... So, uh, how are the Superdelegate letters going? Should I send one to Joe Leiberman? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hell yes! I sent one to Hillary Clinton. Jan
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Post by earthmother on Feb 29, 2004 17:20:12 GMT -5
Speaking of members of Congress like Hillary and Joe, I guess we won't be sending the superdelegate letter to Kerry or Edwards, will we
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Feb 29, 2004 17:22:32 GMT -5
Speaking of members of Congress like Hillary and Joe, I guess we won't be sending the superdelegate letter to Kerry or Edwards, will we Oh, I was tempted, but no, I didn't. I also had Ohio, so I had to leave Kucinich out too. Darn it Jan
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Post by earthmother on Feb 29, 2004 17:30:05 GMT -5
Jan--We're all over this, but I wonder with Kucinich . . . Since he doesn't have a chance, and he knows it, maybe we should write to him? I mean, since he says he's in for the long haul, he'll apparently be voting for himself on the first ballot at the convention. But, if our dream comes true and it goes into a second ballot, at that point, he'll have to get real, and by that, I don't mean going for the so-called "real deal" . How do we know Kucinich wouldn't support Gore? He's been vociferously outraged by the Iraq war and is much more of a progressive than The Two Johns. Could it hurt? Maybe you'd have to rewrite the letter a little, you know, tailor it specifically to him, but I think he SHOULD get a letter.
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Feb 29, 2004 18:23:31 GMT -5
Jan--We're all over this, but I wonder with Kucinich . . . Since he doesn't have a chance, and he knows it, maybe we should write to him? I mean, since he says he's in for the long haul, he'll apparently be voting for himself on the first ballot at the convention. But, if our dream comes true and it goes into a second ballot, at that point, he'll have to get real, and by that, I don't mean going for the so-called "real deal" . How do we know Kucinich wouldn't support Gore? He's been vociferously outraged by the Iraq war and is much more of a progressive than The Two Johns. Could it hurt? Maybe you'd have to rewrite the letter a little, you know, tailor it specifically to him, but I think he SHOULD get a letter. Well , let us see how Super Tuesday goes. Both Edwards and Kucinich may be getting a letter from me. I believe they are essentially both men who want to do the right hting, even though Edwards too voted for this war, which I really have wanted to ask him about. I really like him otherwise. It is a shame he did that. Jan
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Post by GoreLeadership on Mar 1, 2004 8:28:11 GMT -5
I believe the letter should be mailed to them but changed in its context to personally address them as they have been actvely seeking the nomination..
-GoreLeadership
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Post by restoredemocracy on Mar 2, 2004 0:06:20 GMT -5
Kerry, Edwards and Kucinich all hid in their ivory Washington towers plotting their 2004 Presidential campaigns while Bush was stealing the 2000 election from Al Gore in Florida. I think they should be reminded of that fact as well as how they violated their oath of office which requires them to defend our country from emnimies from within which is what the Bush coup in 2000 was.
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