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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 8, 2003 22:38:50 GMT -5
EC, I was responding to Dennis's post that specicaly asked me to name names. I think I have the right to respnd and I think I provided some good evidence. I also believe that there are more DLC sympathizers and I think the evidence is solid in is case as well. Deleting a post that responded to such a specific request is censorship. Why are you so afraid of the truth?
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 11, 2003 23:54:13 GMT -5
This is why we need a new poll, but I dont guess there is a need for it seeing everything is going so well for the draft ???: Now suppose Hillary Rodham Clinton were to run for the Democratic nomination for president. Suppose the 2004 election for president were being held today, and you had to choose between Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democrat, and George W. Bush, the Republican. For whom would you vote, Clinton or Bush?” Bush 50% Clinton 47% Dont Know 3% This was a CNN/Time poll not a Zogby poll. More importantly, Hilary's poll numbers against Bush as well as the dwarf's numbers against Bush still aren't as good as Al Gore's poll numbers against Bush. This doesn't surprise me. Al Gore is clearly number 1.
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Sept 12, 2003 7:42:20 GMT -5
You are labeling a specific person as a DLC sympathizer with no evidence.
Show your proof and your post will stand.
Otherwise, it's slander.
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 12, 2003 9:01:23 GMT -5
I provided my proof. What's your problem? Interesting that you would now label free speech as slander.
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Sept 12, 2003 10:59:34 GMT -5
I never labeled free speech as slander.
You cannot accuse people in the draft movement of being DLC sympathizers without proof.
And if you offered it, where is it?
And what have you done for Gore lately? The person you labeled as a DLC sympathizer has been working very hard for this movement for a very long time.
Secondly, your post is the only post I have deleted on this board. That's not censorship, thats moderating.
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 13, 2003 0:10:09 GMT -5
Sorry EC but your definition of moderating is the one that Hitler used in Germany in the 1930's and the one the election stealing Bush is using now to try to silence anyone who disagrees with him. I've provided solid proof for my position. I think that the way this latest Zogby poll is being kept such a secret is even more proof. Doing everything possible to prevent a draft of Al Gore by the people whie at the same time claiming that they support a draft isn't my idea of supporting Al Gore. I've been doing my best to defend Al Gore against the freepers who've infiltrated the draft movement. You've certainly done an about face because in previous discussions on this subject, you've agreed with my suspicions. Who's now gotten to you?
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Post by TheParaclete on Sept 13, 2003 6:44:21 GMT -5
Patience everyone...The latest Zogby Poll shows Al Gore at a neck & neck 50% race with BU$H right now. BU$H is pulling his PATRIOT GAMES! Those who oppose him are being smashed by the Conservative Violin Players! But we are confusing them with a shell game. Only Savage has caught on so far! Who will it be Clinton? Clark? OR AL GORE! Who's running the guantlet right now? Our girl Hillary Clinton! She is drawing all of the political fire! General Clark is providing yet another twist, and THEY DARE NOT EVEN MENTION AL GORE! RU$H doesn't dare even give AL any publicity! It is obvious WHO THEY DO NOT WANT TO RUN! AL GORE! I say get ready everyone! Al is getting the final pieces of the puzzle together for THE GREATEST POLITICAL MOBILIZATION OF ALL TIME! Let's SEE THEM TRY TO STOP US! I SAY AL GORE IS GOING TO JUMP OUT OF THE HAT AND MAKE THEM ALL WET THEIR PANTS! If he decides TO RUN THEN WE MUST GET READY FOR A PUSH! All of the others will FALL IN LINE! MAY THE BEST WIN, & I STILL SAY IT IS MY MAN, ALBERT GORE! THEY HAVE NO DEFENSE AGAINST HIM! He is at 50-50, but this time we must get better! 60-40 or better! Getting out the vote is a must no matter who runs! We must appeal to those WHO DID NOT VOTE IN 2000! GET READY FOR AL GORE TO ROCK BABY! WHATEVER HE CHOOSES WE MUST SUPPORT HIM! AL GORE ROCKS!
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Sept 13, 2003 11:27:14 GMT -5
Disallowing you to slander a member of the draft movement without proof is in no way connecting me with Hitler.
ADMIN NOTE: RE ELECT Gore, please do not call others Nazi or defame other draft members. If you have a problem please IM me.
ADMIN
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 13, 2003 23:20:13 GMT -5
Once again EC, you prove that you can't handle the truth. The facts speak for themselves. I don't have the time to draw you a picture. You're in such denial about this truth that that's why you're not getting it.
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Post by cosbo on Sept 14, 2003 0:49:26 GMT -5
Can't we all just get along...I love good solid arguments. About the draft, about Bush, about deluded repugs. But I hate it when we all go after each other. We're all on the same side, and us bickering adds nothing to the landscape. Give me arguments with reason, so I can understand where everyone's coming from...nothing less. Peace onto everyone!
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Sept 14, 2003 10:01:23 GMT -5
Cosbo, this is about the moderator of this forum censoring my post because the moderator doesn't agree with my opinion despite my proof. I think this is a very bad precesedent to set. Are only posts that the moderator agrees wth the ones that will be allowed to be posted? I don't think so. That would be a clear violation of free speech. Sometimes the truth hurts and this is one of those times. I can't help what the truth is but I think that I have every right to post that truth in this forum. Many generations of americans have fought and died for our right to free spech. I don't intend to give up my right to free speech to participate in this forum.
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Sept 14, 2003 11:10:18 GMT -5
ReelectGore04; I believe if you as you say have such proof, that you should then bring it to Draft Gore and to that person you are naming and face them. What purpose does it serve here? People will disagree on issues here, and I don't believe that should be censored at all as long as you do so civilly, but as EC stated, if you specifically NAME a person in a public forum and accuse them of something, you open the entire forum up to all sorts of attacks. I don't regard what you claim about this as being true or untrue, and if you wish to continue this with me off this board, I would be more than happy to read it and discuss it with you. You have so much to contribute to this cause. Please continue to do so here. Jan
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Post by TheParaclete on Sept 14, 2003 18:28:51 GMT -5
Re-Elect, not being too critical, but who are you to come down on me and the administrators of this board? And besides, we don't get any marching orders from the DNC or DLC here. And what have I said that anyone on the opposition doesn't know? Do you take THEM for fools too? Do not underestimate the enemy. Besides anything I say is pure conjecture & opinion, just like Morris. It isn't like I have some "magical pipeline" straight to Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Wesley Clark, the DLC or DNC as well! It is the LACK of communication in the DNC & DLC that CAUSES problems instead of solving them. If we have "uncovered" some master plan here "in"- advertantly, is it OUR fault? My arguement has always been the same. If all the BU$H-Babies & the GOP can stay on the same page then what is the problem with Democrats? One word----UNITY! But that diversity is also our fighting "foil". We have so many plans going simultaneously that it ties THEM up to cover them all! But we do not have TOP END leadership. Democrats tend to let a de-centralized "pluralistic" form of factions each push their own platforms to see what "bubbles" to the top. this in itself is good for democracy in action, but also causes hard feelings between factional groups. By UNITY, I express the notion that whatever does dominate our party be accepted by all! We do not want Al Gore to run and then have all the Dean supporters get mad and turn their backs on us. If the Republicans are like "1984" in Orwellian terms, then the Democrats are like "Animal Farm". I think Orwell saw both of these political traits and expressed them rather well. Also on a personal note. I look at all my fellow Gore Supporters as friends, and I do not like infights. I like Dennis personally as he was there for me when I came back on-line. Do you have a reason for getting on anyone of us here? I mean some ulteroir motive? Anyone Republican or Democrat that uses tactics to dissolve the overall unity of our party, I look upon with disdain. I will defend anyone here, Chris, Tangy, Dennis or Jan even if they may not agree with my viewpoints, and that goes for other Gore supporters, and boards as well. If any Democrat uses ulterior motives to try to hoist themselves up in the "farm" pecking order, then THAT candidate and followers are destined to both doom & failure. BU$H is disliked because of lies, smokescreens, and fabrications. Why would WE vote in somebody who uses the same tactics? I will also defend any Democratic candidate going against BU$H along with any "Good" Republican that goes against BU$H as well! I will defend Dr. Dean or Senator Kerry no matter how "hot" they may get at us, each other, or anyone else in general. I also will support bi-partisan Republicans who are "sick & tired" of BU$H and the ROVE Cabal's warping of the truth. Everyone should feel they have a safe haven under the Gore "umbrella". And anyone like Hillary Clinton, who has GUTS enough to take on BU$H even though she knows that a pummeling will come from jerks like Limburger, Fannity Flagwaver, the Savage Cabbage or "Eva" Von Coulter should get a MEDAL for it! Hillary & Bill Clinton have been "running the guantlet" for us and "taking fire" as well! I say to Hillary Clinton--YOU GO GIRL! Here is my job as an example. You have Dr. Dean & Senator Kerry duking it out with Cheney & Rove ready to club them both from behind with big sticks! I am ready to shoot rubber percussion slugs at both ROVE & CHENEY to STOP THEM! My job is not to STOP Dr. Dean & Senator Kerry. MY JOB IS TO STOP "RICHARD CRANIUM" CHENEY & KARL "CHIPHEAD" ROVE! I want all 12 Apostles of Democracy involved in fixing America actively. No matter WHO WINS, nobody should be left out! BU$H will leave us a big mess, and it will take efforts from all of us to repair the damage. The Gore "BRAIN TRUST" will equal FDR'S and even SURPASS IT! The 12 Apostles have been taking on BU$H at every turn. This is not lost on me. Dr. Dean & Senator Kerry have been pounding BU$H heavily about the war. Dick Gephardt has been pounding on BU$H every chance he gets! I have a dream, and it may sound silly and naive, but I look forward to the day when we can ALL MARCH DOWN PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE WITH AL GORE AND TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM THE PLUTOCRATS! BU$H AND THE ROVE CABAL MUST GO! ;D I end with another example of my job. My job is NOT getting on Hillary Clinton about running. My job is to GET ON THE THREE BLIND MICE OF AM RADIO FOR GETTING ON HILLARY! Limburger, we already know you are "light in the loafers".(Not that I have anything against that). But Sean, you should be ashamed of having "wet dreams" about Hillary Clinton! LOL! As for you Savage, WAKE UP! being a misogynist won't score you ANY brownie points! By the way Savage---THE INTERNET MAN IS HERE! WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED THREAD.........
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Sept 14, 2003 20:09:52 GMT -5
It's very simple.
You supply proof that this person you named is a DLC sympathizer and your post stands.
Otherwise, it's slander.
What is so complicated?
And you have to concede that you are doing more than stretching the truth by saying you have provided proof.
If so, then put egg on my face and show your proof.
We are all very interested.
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Post by Gorezilla on Sept 14, 2003 20:11:14 GMT -5
Note: Re-elect has copyrighted the truth and the notion of unforgiveness. Do not violate those copyrights. Paraclete, I like you too! Though I didn't know you from before you came back online I knew right away that you are among the enlightened ones and bring growth and inspiration to the Gore movement! Dennis
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