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Post by GSC Admin on Apr 22, 2004 16:43:59 GMT -5
www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0422gore.htmlCOLUMBUS | Former Vice President Al Gore's speech Wednesday at Ohio State University was one part politics, one part science and one part humor. "I am Al Gore and I used to be the next president of the United States," he said. When that line brought laughter, he deadpanned, "That's not funny." After five minutes of self-depreciating humor, he delivered a lecture and slide show on global warming. He noted increases in carbon dioxide concentrations and emissions, global temperatures, droughts and floods and human population over time. The 10 hottest years on record have been in the past 13 years, he said. As the Arctic ice cap melts, sun rays will be absorbed into the water, warming the pole by as much as 12 degrees, which could change wind patterns and ocean currents so that the entire climatic system is thrown out of whack, he warned. "We can stop all this but we have got to act," he said. Gore's speech was the 62nd annual Bownocker Lecture in geological sciences at Ohio State. He also met privately with faculty from the Byrd Polar Research Center. You may now what the streaming video of Mr. Gore's lecture via OSU: www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0422gore.html
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Post by SonOfLiberty1 on Apr 22, 2004 20:17:15 GMT -5
It seems to me that Al uses that opening line at every appearance he makes, and I agree it's a good one, it's funny and it immediately grabs everyone's attention, even those in the audience who might not be avid supporters like us. But I'm beginning to think it's wearing a little too thin. I no longer want to hear him announce to the entire world that he "used to be the next president of the United States." To me and about 51 million other Americans he IS the President of the United States, or at least he should be! Like Mr Gore, I am a Vietnam era vet. When I entered the Navy I, like everyone else, swore to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic." That oath didn't end after my nine years of active duty, I believe it's valid until the day I take my last breath. If I were still in the service, I would be honored to call Mr. Gore my commander-in-chief. Mr. Gore... Sir... If by some Godawful miracle you or someone you know chances to read this plea, please hear me: I no longer care that you "used to be the next president." 51 million American citizens stated unequivically that they believe you are the rightful president-in-waiting. America is under attack from outside the country as well as from inside. Personally, I think our internal enemy is the more dangerous one, he has the potential to do more long-term harm to our beloved democracy than any so-called enemy combatant. Your country is in serious danger and it is calling you now. There is no other qualified democrat out there who deserves the office you already won. Please sir, with respect, it's time to stop the cute opening one-liners, and stand up for your nation. Speeches are a great thing but action is what is needed now. If there is any way possible, please state your intention at the convention to retake the office you rightfully won. I guarantee you that you won't believe the response you will get from the American people. Our country cannot wait until 2008. You are needed now. Please, sir, it's time to fight back. -- Sincerely, an American patriot.
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Post by Dolphins4Gore on Apr 22, 2004 23:47:56 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more fellow Patriot. There's no way we can lose if Al Gore is our nominee for President and I honestly can't see John Kerry winning. I'm afraid it's really up to the American people to make Al Gore the nominee however and just a few of us won't do it. A mass movement of some type must get underway soon whereby the people demand Al Gore be the nominee. In my fantasy world for example, people in every city would post flyers urging others to call the DNC to demand they call upon or draft Al Gore (202-863-8000) and to call Al Gore's office to express their support for his candidacy (615-327-2227). People would organize rallies and sit-ins locally and the movement would spread across the nation until finally, the presumptive nominee John Kerry would graciously step aside and sucumb to the wishes of the people as well as the DNC who realize finally what a mistake they made when they urged Al Gore not to run when he was seriously considering it. On 20/20 with Barbara Walters in November 2002, she asked Al Gore about a possible run after what he'd been through in 2000 by saying, "Do you have the heart to go through all of that again?" To which he replied, "If it's the right thing to do for my country, of course I do! I would like to be President. I think I would be a great President. But is it the right thing to do for my country? That's the question I'll be asking." Well the DNC and DLC elite made it clear to Al Gore they were not interested in his candidacy and they somehow convinced our rightful President that it would be best for the country if he not run for President again in 2004. John Kerry was already a declared candidate at the time and he stated publically he didn't care if Al was in or out, he was running. He wasn't supporting a Gore candidacy, in fact he went so far as to tell those of us still royally pissed off over being robbed alongside Al Gore in 2000 to "stop crying in our teacups." For that reason along with so many others, he won't be getting my support this year. The democratic party leadership wanted John Kerry and look where that got them. They have to be regretting letting Al Gore go. Bush should be floundering in the polls but people aren't blind or stupid and they see the alternative which doesn't appear to be much better. If you're going to jump ship in the middle of any game, especially one where people are dying, you don't want to land on the Titanic. The people of this nation also must urge the media networks to start airing Gore's speeches. If people only knew what they were missing and what is possible. Al Gore is a brilliant man with a great vision of hope and he can still be President. Not only can he be, he WANTS to be! Justice, peace and prosperity can be restored. But free will reigns so people must act.
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Post by earthmother on Apr 24, 2004 15:46:29 GMT -5
SOL--I can't help noticing that your Son of Liberty initials also go along with another phrase, as in SOL--sh*t out of luck. We are, I'm afraid, SOL. Your plea is so rousing and so true and what you call for is so sensible and so necessary, and I couldn't agree with you more, but I'm afraid, for whatever reason, Gore's not responding. And Dolphins, if only we could make your fantasy come true! But we've been trying for more than three years, and Al is simply not biting. Why? WHY?! So many theories, so many guesses, but in the end, it really doesn't matter why. What matters is that he is not running. He's had more than enough opportunities to get in, and we've certainly done our share of begging, oh god, PLEADING, on bended knees. I won't say we've exhausted all the avenues, but enough roads have been explored at this point for me to believe that it's just not going to happen. Not this election. I can't see any way that Kerry would step down now, even if people woke up and realized they'd made a mistake in voting for Kerry and that Gore would run. It's still so sad, so hard for all of us to accept, and while there's no harm in pleading and even still working toward it, I think we know that we are . . . SOL on this one.
I've been taking a fair amount of flak over at AGDems for criticizing Kerry. They don't want to hear about it. They say it's counter-productive. Well, I simply cannot get behind Kerry. I cannot let go of a Gore presidency, and while I'm no longer actively working toward that goal, I won't be putting any effort into getting Kerry into office. I will vote for him, yes, just to get rid of Bush, but I don't personally think Kerry is going to be able to beat Bush. For reasons I don't understand, Bush is managing to survive all the bad press and negative publicity from the books that are being written and from revelations from the 9/11 commission, etc. Whatever monkey boy's allure is, it doesn't seem to be waning.
And whatever Gore's reasons for not running are, he doesn't seem to be listening.
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Post by Dolphins4Gore on Apr 25, 2004 0:59:03 GMT -5
I think Mr. Gore is listening but feels his hands are tied. He won't run if there's any possibilty he will lose because he'll never put his family or himself through that trauma again. He doesn't want to be the one people can blame for losing against Bush again, especially this time. It's up to the people of the nation to call upon Al Gore now. We are the employer in this case. We hired in him in November of 2000 but we allowed someone else take his job. It's up to us to take the job from the thief and offer it back to the guy we let walk away. If any of us were in his shoes, would we come back begging for the position we were wrongfully denied? Earthmother, to your point about the draft movement not taking off despite our many noteworthy efforts over the past year and a half, most Americans are not involved in the political process to this day. Most are oblivious to what's really going on in the world. But mark my words, one of these days, Americans will wake up and call upon Al Gore to serve and protect us. I feel it coming. I don't know when or how, but I feel strongly Al Gore will be our next President. I still believe it will be this year. For some reason I feel Kerry will NOT be the eventual nominee and when he exits the scene, Al Gore will take center stage. If Kerry is the eventual candidate facing Bush in November, he will lose and Gore will run in 2008. While all appears hopeless, I remain hopeful. God is on Gore's side. The Presidency is his destiny.
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Post by earthmother on Apr 25, 2004 14:33:11 GMT -5
Dolphins, yes, I agree with you that it's not that Gore isn't listening but rather that his hands are tied. Absolutely I agree with that. I DO think he wanted to run, and I have heard rumors from reliable sources that he did in fact consider a run in the middle of last year but decided (with Clinton's help) that it was too late to launch an effective campaign. How wrong they were! But regardless, he is not running, and he can't run as long as Kerry remains where he is. Kerry would have to actively step aside or somehow be denied the nomination by the DNC at this point. He has enough committed delegates to win, and those delegates are obligated to vote for him on the first ballot. So barring some kind of unforseen miracle (which, of course, can happen, but I can't for the life of me imagine what it could be), Kerry will be the nominee.
I also agree with you that being president is Gore's destiny. I have little doubt that, if Kerry loses, Gore will run in 2008. That's almost enough to make you wish that Kerry would lose, but Bush has absolutely got to go. Well, que sera, sera . . . whatever will be, will be, and I hope with all my heart, Dolphins, that you are prescient and know something the rest of us don't know. Actually, I know someone else who claims to be able to see the future and has predicted that Gore will be President in 2004. I'm certainly not going to put any money on it, but if it were to happen, nothing would make me happier.
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Post by Dolphins4Gore on Apr 25, 2004 18:19:55 GMT -5
I feel as if I have been spiritually enlightened to the details I've laid before you. I don't know yet if I'm right but I sure as hell hope so and time will surely tell. Who is this other person you mentioned Earthmother?
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Post by ErinB on Apr 25, 2004 19:29:50 GMT -5
Dolphins and Earthmother, Gore was indeed meant to be President. He won in 2000 and he did not get to take the office that was rightfully his. We have been paying for it dearly ever since. All is not right with the world. Something drastic or something we cannot fathom will have to happen in order to get him inaugurated this go round though. It is my realistic hope that he keeps speaking at every event he can to call Bush on every blunder and to continue to be a leader. If Kerry loses, we will need him more than ever. Then, if we survive the hell that follows, Gore can run in 08. Kerry at least domestically and environmentally is a million times better than Bush. I worry though that he will not have a viable exit plan for Iraq.
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Post by earthmother on Apr 25, 2004 22:16:01 GMT -5
I think I'd rather not divulge that information, Dolphins, other than to say it's someone we all worked with a while ago, and it didn't work out very well. But like you, he said it was a spiritual thing, that he had a vision that Gore would be president in 2004, and that his visions have often come true in the past.
I wish with all my heart that your vision would come true.
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Post by Dolphins4Gore on May 3, 2004 23:03:28 GMT -5
I don't know if you all have been listening to the political pundits over the past couple of days but apparently there are some inside the democratic party saying they feel we need a new nominee to face Bush this year. John Kerry is NOT doing well in the polls, especially considering how disliked Bush is. People are equally uneasy and unsure with John Kerry as they are with Bush. I wish someone would run a Bush V. Gore poll! Al Gore would kick Bush's ass in a poll right now!
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Post by earthmother on May 4, 2004 10:45:48 GMT -5
Dolphins! Say it's not so! Oh, be still my beating heart. So they finally woke up to the fact that Kerry's not the best candidate. But what can they do about it? To my knowledge, there's no provision in election law that would allow for the votes of people who've already voted to be transferred to another candidate. Kerry already has the nomination sewn up as far as committed delegates are concerned. So the only option would be for him to not accept the nomination and throw the floor open to someone else. Talk about chaos! The DNC would never go for that.
I've been purposely staying away from the news for a while because it gets me too upset. Exactly which pundits have been talking about this? I'm just curious.
And of course, the fantasy continues . . . Kerry refuses the nomination, Gore steps in to save the day . . . and happy days are here again!
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Post by ErinB on May 4, 2004 16:56:36 GMT -5
I'm not biting. My hopes have been smashed in too many times. But then again, maybe...
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Post by Stephen on May 28, 2004 15:35:29 GMT -5
Gore Lost. I see no reason to deny it. It wont do us any good to deny it.
Gores radical "buy in" to the most extreme environmental agendas also did not help him in the election.
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Post by ErinB on May 28, 2004 16:08:12 GMT -5
Gore did not lose. The Supreme Court handed the election to Bush.
Gore never "bought into" any environmental way of thinking..his ideas are a part of him and he believes we must take care of our only home..Earth.
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Post by true american on May 30, 2004 9:06:03 GMT -5
www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0422gore.htmlCOLUMBUS | Former Vice President Al Gore's speech Wednesday at Ohio State University was one part politics, one part science and one part humor. "I am Al Gore and I used to be the next president of the United States," he said. When that line brought laughter, he deadpanned, "That's not funny." After five minutes of self-depreciating humor, he delivered a lecture and slide show on global warming. He noted increases in carbon dioxide concentrations and emissions, global temperatures, droughts and floods and human population over time. The 10 hottest years on record have been in the past 13 years, he said. As the Arctic ice cap melts, sun rays will be absorbed into the water, warming the pole by as much as 12 degrees, which could change wind patterns and ocean currents so that the entire climatic system is thrown out of whack, he warned. "We can stop all this but we have got to act," he said. Gore's speech was the 62nd annual Bownocker Lecture in geological sciences at Ohio State. He also met privately with faculty from the Byrd Polar Research Center. You may now what the streaming video of Mr. Gore's lecture via OSU: www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0422gore.html
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