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Post by restoredemocracy on May 30, 2004 19:59:21 GMT -5
Gore Lost. I see no reason to deny it. It wont do us any good to deny it. Gores radical "buy in" to the most extreme environmental agendas also did not help him in the election. It's pretty obvious that Stephen slept through math class. Al Gore got the most votes and in a democracy, it's the person with the most votes who wins. Furthermore, it's Bush who is the radical. Bush has wiped out 30 years of environmental laws that enjoyed strong bi-partisan support. Bush is in the hip pocket of the worst polluters in the country. Bush isn't capable of making a speech on any issue as comprehensively and as in depth as Al Gore's presentaton at Ohio State. |
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Post by GSC Admin on May 31, 2004 14:30:23 GMT -5
Gore is radical? Gore is not the one who broke with the Geneva convention, invaded a country that posed no threat to us, played on American's fear to win support for that war, rolled back 30 years worth of environmental laws, underfunded education, cut veteran's benefits, and has alienated the entire world, whereas now everyone wants to kill us. You tell me what Gore has done to classify as "radical".  |
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Post by restoredemocracy on May 31, 2004 17:57:17 GMT -5
Chris, once again this Stephen is another right wing nut job who's trying to disrupt our forum. You need to learn how to identify these nuts and ban them so we don't waste our time fghting with them. Our time neds to be better spent reaching out to people who are more open minded. This is somethig you really need to learn.
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Post by GSC Admin on May 31, 2004 18:16:26 GMT -5
Keep up the smart attitude and I will re-ban you. I know this is a right wing nut. Did you not read where I called him a right winger? I have plenty good judgement to know who is a Gore supporter and who is a right wing crank. So, if you want to continue to post here, please use a slightly less abrasive attitude with everyone.
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Post by PatriotForGore on Jun 1, 2004 1:15:50 GMT -5
I have been lurking here on and off, but I can't keep silent any longer. Why are these people who are trashing Gore and spreading the same tired lies being allowed to do so here? I don't know who you are ALMALE (although you sound like Sean Hannity in drag), but the ELECTORAL vote was tampered with in 2000. Were you not watching FOX news that year? The Republican dominated Florida legislature, in a panic because they know the electoral votes of Florida, as in 47 other states, are awarded to the candidate who receives the most popular votes, decided to surpass the constitution and vote for a resolution to send a second set of electors to Washington DC OVER the already sealed set that was sent to Washington DC. They then proceeded to announce publicly that those electors would be for Bush, which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And who was the first sealed set of electors for? YOU take a guess.
We all now know that Al Gore did indeed receive the most popular votes in Florida, (and if you wish, I can list the sites that prove it. I DOUBT you can put your money where your big mouth is, and show us ANY count above the bogus one presented by Harrris that shows any such thing) and was therefore entitled to the electoral votes... But of course, Florida under Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, wouldn't see that done. That is why they had felon lists prepared that were 90% INACCURATE, and included names of blacks who were not felons, but denied their right to vote because their names appeared on that list. Now, WHY would these people deliberately seek to thwart the popular vote by ILLEGALLY tampering with voter lists and stopping vote counts, if those votes didn't matter in electing a President?
That was just the tip of the iceberg. The day the electoral votes were set to be counted, there was not the required quorum in Congress to do so. The Congressional Black Caucus walked out of the chambers (I guess your tv wasn't on for that one either), and not ONE Senator would sign a document that would have stopped that count, which they could have done. HOWEVER, the counting of those votes regardless, based on how the electoral votes pf Florida were selected, and the fact that there was not a quorum in Congress to count them, taint those votes, and show us only one part of the coup that took place, with the USSC appointment being the clincher. Now, you can come here or anywhere that supports Gore with these same old worn out dishonest and misrepresentative talking points because you are po'ed that Gore is speaking truth and people are listening, but it doesn't change the facts. If you want those facts I will supply them.
Can you handle the truth?
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Post by MProffitt on Jun 1, 2004 2:20:43 GMT -5
Patriot for Gore -
Your wasting your time on this one....you could post law and site Florida Statutes, you could post all sorts of factural information, but the the troll bean will dispute it all as lies - people do not want to believe that our government could do this in America.
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Post by Patriot For Gore on Jun 1, 2004 2:45:39 GMT -5
It is obvious that your attitude suggests that you already know of what I speak of ( and couldn't handle the truth if it bit you on the ^^^, nor do you really give a damn), and this is just a way to keep this going. I actually find it odd that this poster is continually being allowed to trash Al Gore here, (because he obviously has nothing better to do) while others who supported this forum with their time and money were banned just because they chose to not post here and support a site that endorsed Kerry, when Al Gore didn't even do that. (Just FYI, allowing trolls like this to continually disrupt this board only keeps people away, and imo, doesn't reflect well on any Gore community.) Therefore, I've decided I'm not going to play this stupid cat and mouse "bring it on" game either. The truth is out there if you have the ***** to look for it. Try Citizens For Legitimate Govt., Make Them Accountable, and other sites that actually tell the truth about this last selection and the cover up of the true results. As a matter of fact, it might even be on this site posted by me or someone else somewhere already, if you have the guts to look for it. But you won't, because all you are here for is to play games whoever you are. I'm not. I have better things to do. I would direct you to our PAC's site to get some knowledge on the subject, but I'm not allowed to post websites here that support Al Gore. I would have more luck being kept here if I were a RW troll. Go figure. I'm done with this. |
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Post by restoredemocracy on Jun 1, 2004 3:15:15 GMT -5
Sorry Chris but you need to turn your fire on these ight wing nuts and not a real Al Gore supporter. If you want to waste your valuable time on these right wing nut jobs that's your business but don't push them off on the rest of us. You're letting them succeed at their obvious goal which is to disrupt this forum and waste every one's time. You need to understand this. These right wing nut jobs should be ashamed of their support for their election stealing lying Viet Nam dodger Bush who illegally squats in the White House against the will of the people. No amount of their eforts to cover-up this truth will ever succeed in hiding this truth. Their disdain for our democratic form of government that every previous generation of americans have fought and died for is disgusting and shameful. It's obvious that our laws mean nothing to these pea brains just like their smirking chimp Bush. Our country is in a disaster because of this smirking chimp. These pea brains are also stupid enough to believe that their smirking chimp was actually a Texan and a Washington outsider too. For the record, this smirking chimp was no Washington outsider and his real home state is Connecticut which he lost. This same smirking chimp who also claimed to be Mr. "I trust the people" couldn't ilegally block legal votes from being counted fast enough in order to trample the will of the people and steal the election in order to wrek his havoc on the entire planet. The entire planet knows that Al Gore won the 2000 elecion. The Bush smirking chimp is the laughing stock of the planet and has made our country the most hated ountry on the planet. It's time for these right wing nuts who are doing nothing but disrupting our forum and shilling for this smirking chimp to go.
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Post by JamesAquila on Jun 1, 2004 3:40:04 GMT -5
It is obvious that your attitude suggests that you already know of what I speak of ( and couldn't handle the truth if it bit you on the ^^^, nor do you really give a damn), and this is just a way to keep this going. I actually find it odd that this poster is continually being allowed to trash Al Gore here, (because he obviously has nothing better to do) while others who supported this forum with their time and money were banned just because they chose to not post here and support a site that endorsed Kerry, when Al Gore didn't even do that. (Just FYI, allowing trolls like this to continually disrupt this board only keeps people away, and imo, doesn't reflect well on any Gore community.) Therefore, I've decided I'm not going to play this stupid cat and mouse "bring it on" game either. The truth is out there if you have the ***** to look for it. Try Citizens For Legitimate Govt., Make Them Accountable, and other sites that actually tell the truth about this last selection and the cover up of the true results. As a matter of fact, it might even be on this site posted by me or someone else somewhere already, if you have the guts to look for it. But you won't, because all you are here for is to play games whoever you are. I'm not. I have better things to do. I would direct you to our PAC's site to get some knowledge on the subject, but I'm not allowed to post websites here that support Al Gore. I would have more luck being kept here if I were a RW troll. Go figure. I'm done with this. Please. You were as bad as any Con. Abusing your power as a moderator to silence anyone that disagreed with you. Resorting to half-truths and inuendo and personal insults when you had no facts as back up. Making accusations without any proof. This site has been a damn site better since you left. Just stay away. |
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Post by JamesAquila on Jun 1, 2004 3:42:41 GMT -5
CFLG, MTA are as legitimate of a source as the Star and Enquirer. Everyone from newspapers to journalist of every stripe went in and recounted the ballots, and in every type of recount, Bush had the majority of all the valid votes. Nope. Again you don't know what you're talking about and are just parroting what you heard on Rush. The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins. Certified by Katherine Harris Gore Gain 0 Gore Deficit or Lead -537 Valid votes found after certification Gore Gain +59 Gore Deficit or Lead -478 Correctly marked paper ballots Gore Gain +493 Gore Deficit or Lead +15 Full punches Gore Gain +100 Gore Deficit or Lead +115 Poorly marked paper ballot Gore Gain +309 Gore Deficit or Lead +424 3-corner chads Gore Gain -208 Gore Deficit or Lead +216 2-corner chads Gore Gain -111 Gore Deficit or Lead +105 1-corner chads Gore Gain -45 Gore Deficit or Lead +60 Dimples with sunlight Gore Gain +88 Gore Deficit or Lead +148 Dimples Gore Gain -41 Gore Deficit or Lead +107 www.norc.uchicago.edu/fl/index.asp |
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Post by JamesAquila on Jun 1, 2004 3:44:22 GMT -5
All your endless words will not silence people who differ of opinion and speak the truth. You're opinion may be different but I have yet to hear you say anything close to the truth. Just repeating GOP talking points. |
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Post by ErinB on Jun 1, 2004 5:49:20 GMT -5
The last three posts were deleted... It was me..I did it and I am sorry if it hurts anyone's feelings. I just can't stand the arguing.  |
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Post by Patriot For Gore on Jun 1, 2004 6:19:19 GMT -5
Please. You were as bad as any Con. Abusing your power as a moderator to silence anyone that disagreed with you. Resorting to half-truths and inuendo and personal insults when you had no facts as back up. Making accusations without any proof. This site has been a damn site better since you left. Just stay away. I really don't like the arguing either, Erin, but why is this allowed to then stay? This isn't arguing? This response is downright nasty and hurtful to me. Bad as any Con? What does that mean? That isn't even POSSIBLE. So why was my response to set the lies in this response straight removed, when it was this post that started it? I'm only asking why. Responses like this from moderators here don't exactly endear people to come back. |
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Post by GSC Admin on Jun 1, 2004 6:27:46 GMT -5
I don't know what was said here initially, but can someone PM me and tell me?
Thanks, Chris
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Post by JamesAquila on Jun 1, 2004 7:16:58 GMT -5
I really don't like the arguing either, Erin, but why is this allowed to then stay? This isn't arguing? This response is downright nasty and hurtful to me. Bad as any Con? What does that mean? That isn't even POSSIBLE. So why was my response to set the lies in this response straight removed, when it was this post that started it? I'm only asking why. Responses like this from moderators here don't exactly endear people to come back. Who says anyone wants you to come back. You bash Chris because he has allowed an opposing point of view. You bash him again because he is following Gore's wishes by supporting Kerry. And then you lie about Gore endorsing Kerry (which he has done repeatedly). When you trash people & censor them because you don't like what they say and play fast & loose with the truth, then you're as bad as any Con. |
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