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Post by EnemyCombatant on Aug 5, 2003 16:26:31 GMT -5
Colin Powell in an integral part of the Carlyle Group. I don't think we want him on our team.
And I will not attack any other Democrat either. We all have to get behind someone even if it will be Dean. I just hope it's not Kerry or Lieberman because they are the most negative towards Gore.
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Post by Gorezilla on Aug 5, 2003 18:43:35 GMT -5
EC, don't you mean THEY are in trouble? Agree on Lieberman. But Kerry actually stated when asked about Gore possibly re-entering that he would welcome anyone to the race. Dennis
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Post by algore048 on Aug 5, 2003 20:07:36 GMT -5
Agree on Lieberman. But Kerry actually stated when asked about Gore possibly re-entering that he would welcome anyone to the race. Dennis Kerry said once that people should just get over Florida in the 2000 election and not cry in a teacup or something like that. (I don't remember the exact quote.) That certainly offended all Gore supporters.
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Post by algore048 on Aug 10, 2003 3:45:40 GMT -5
Howard Dean - his liberal facade = Joe Lieberman.Howard Dean is very opportunistic. I was wrong. I was wrong because Howard Dean has never been a liberal and therefore saying Howard Dean has a liberal facade was wrong. He was never a liberal and to this day not a liberal. Only his anti-war stance made him look like a liberal in the current political climate. But during his governorship he seldom, if not never, had a chance to express his foreign policy opinions like he does now. He is neither a liberal nor Joe Lieberman. Al Gore is still my choice, but best of luck for Howard Dean's political future. Here is what Howard Dean thinks of Al Gore. Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean said he was delighted to hear Gore making the case against Bush. His praise also was a concession about the former vice president's clout. "Gore still has a stature that none of us has," Dean said in a telephone interview while campaigning through Iowa. "He's run for the president. At the time when we don't have a head of the Democratic Party, Al is the closest thing to that." www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/08/overshadowed.dems.ap/index.htmlMany of the Democratic contenders give the "I want Al Gore's huge endorsement but that is it" impression, but Howard Dean is the only candidate speaking the truth candidly.
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Post by NicRic on Aug 10, 2003 10:12:58 GMT -5
I really did not have any knowledge of Gov Deans stand on the important issuses. Once I became more familar with them the less I supported him. However Iam still from the anyone except bush line of thinking. Staying true to that ,I cannot support Dean ,because simply I want to win in 2004 and I dont believe he has any chance of winning. I strongly believe that if the Dems dont wake up by the time of the Dem convention and Draft Gore for 2004, that we will be stuck in this bush nightmare for another 4 years. Everyone needs to come together on this,the liberal Dems the moderate Dems , the Greens and other independant voters. We all have one thing in common, bush is against all of us ,and Gore is a honest intelligent man that has a open mind to all points of veiw. If we remain sliced into a multi piece pie, we will go down in a ugly way .If you think bush is arrogant now, imagine him winning in a landslide, because of our failure to unite for a common cause. The cause of giving the Goverment back to the people and taking it out of the hands of these extremist. The same thing with the recall in Ca. , all of parties need to unite against this repug coup against the Governors office . You would think after 8 years of prosperity under a Dem President ,that the Dems would have the upper hand. Whats been happening to our party is a example of what happens when you look the other way when a crime against our republic takes place ! The crime of stealing the 2000 election should not be forgotten ,its at the heart of all the problems we are now facing . WAKE UP PEOPLE, or it will get much worst B/4 it gets better, how about 8 years of Jeb after bush jr. has his eight ! Nightmare part 2 !!!!!
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Post by GSC Admin on Aug 27, 2003 16:47:48 GMT -5
Howard Dean Surges Ahead In Poll
Aug 27, 2003 12:24 pm US/Central WASHINGTON (AP) Howard Dean has grabbed a commanding 21-point lead over rival John Kerry in the latest New Hampshire poll in which voters said they prefer a take-no-prisoners Democrat to one who could oust President Bush.
The likely Democratic primary voters are realists who acknowledge that Bush is a formidable foe: Almost two-thirds -- 64 percent -- said they think the president likely will win re-election in 2004.
Dean, who trailed Kerry in polls earlier this year, led the Massachusetts senator 38 percent to 17 percent in the Zogby International poll conducted Aug. 23-26 and released Wednesday.
When asked whether it was more important to have a candidate willing to stand up for what they believe or a candidate who can win in November 2004, voters said they preferred the former by a 2-to-1 margin.
In his campaign against his top Democratic rivals, Dean has argued that they represent "Bush-lite," and he has assailed those lawmakers who have compromised with the president, particularly those who backed the congressional resolution authorizing the use of military force in Iraq.
The August survey comes as Dean has shown political strength in his fund raising, drawn large crowds for his "Sleepless Summer" tour and appeared in ads on New Hampshire television. The state is slated to hold its primary Jan. 27.
"Dean has spent considerable resources on TV so it's not surprising he's increased his numbers in a very fluid electorate," said Kerry spokesman Robert Gibbs. "Kerry has long-term strengths that will stay with him throughout the winter when more voters are paying attention and making their final decisions."
Dean and Kerry were essentially tied in a Zogby poll in June, and the former Vermont governor held a single-digit lead in a recent survey. Still, the latest numbers were somewhat unexpected, even in the Dean campaign.
"We've noticed a definite increase in interest in Governor Dean and his message, but the new poll numbers were certainly a surprise," said Dorie Clark, a spokeswoman for Dean.
Pollster John Zogby said Dean's support was in all regions of the state, among men and women, Democrats and independents, liberals and moderates. Dean took support from another rival, Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri, and from undecided voters.
Gephardt, who was at 11 percent in February, dropped to 6 percent. Undecided voters fell from 29 percent to 23 percent.
Dean's ability to tap into Gephardt's support was evident in a separate New Hampshire poll. Gephardt has made health care coverage the centerpiece of his campaign, yet the survey found that almost three times as many likely primary voters -- 54 percent -- associate Dean, an internist, with a health care plan than Gephardt, 18 percent.
The bipartisan poll, sponsored by the Service Employees International Union and conducted by Republican Ed Goeas and Democrat Celinda Lake, found rising health care costs was the top campaign issue.
The rest of the Democratic field was in single digits in the Zogby poll. Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut was at 6 percent, and Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who also is running ads in New Hampshire, was at 4 percent.
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who is considering a presidential bid, was at 2 percent, while Sen. Bob Graham of Florida and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio were at 1 percent. Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton were at 0 percent.
The Zogby poll of 501 likely primary voters has an error margin of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.
(© 2003 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. )
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Post by reelectgore2004 on Aug 27, 2003 22:26:34 GMT -5
Sorry algore048 but Dean is a cheap opportunist who wants badly to tap into the Al Gore majority. You need to know that in the 2000 democratic Presidential primary, Dean endorsed Bradley. Bradley's campaign was funded by wealthy republican wall street investment bankers.
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Nov 4, 2003 20:48:31 GMT -5
And this is our future nominee?
He thinks he can win the south?
Does he even know how Southerners feel about yankees? Especially Yankess trying to kiss their ass and a yankee that avidly protested the war, and is pro gay marriages.
We all should be afraid. Very afraid!
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Post by EnemyCombatant on Nov 4, 2003 21:07:42 GMT -5
Oh, no he didn't say that. Uh, yes he did.
Dean, saying, "I'm no bigot," declined to apologize for the comment and told his rivals the Democrats will never recapture the White House until they find a way to appeal to working class white voters in the South. "I make no apologies for reaching out to poor whites," he said.
Well there goes that Southern vote.
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Post by GSC Admin on Nov 4, 2003 21:20:12 GMT -5
Dean is a dope. One, the confederate flag is a symbol of racism plain and simple. Second, not all white racists are white and poor! Wow, I am glad a rich liberal from the north is telling us southerners the way it is! Give me a break! Here is what President Gore said:
Gore said the Confederate flag should come down from public buildings because it divides Americans. Gore said the flag represents “for many Americans a hurtful message that recalls the pain of slavery” and it should not be flown from the South Carolina Statehouse or other public buildings. “The citizens of goodwill everywhere must take a position on it and see that in fact the American flag heals and the Confederate flag divides us,” he said. “I think there is too much tolerance of intolerance.”
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Post by yes4gore on Dec 2, 2003 0:24:04 GMT -5
Dean came off pretty well on Hardball tonight. He was respected by Chris Matthews. And their website is phenomenal - gets richer in content every day. More meetups, more parties, support groups all over the country. Like it or not, the Deanians are organized and he may well get the nomination. You cannot underestimate these people; they are as energized as any Gorista, plus they are bankrolled.
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Post by JamesAquila on Dec 2, 2003 1:20:24 GMT -5
Dean came off pretty well on Hardball tonight. He was respected by Chris Matthews. And their website is phenomenal - gets richer in content every day. More meetups, more parties, support groups all over the country. Like it or not, the Deanians are organized and he may well get the nomination. You cannot underestimate these people; they are as energized as any Gorista, plus they are bankrolled. Yeah he is being bankrolled mainly by Republicans. The Mondale, Dukakis and McGovern people were energized too.
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Post by yes4gore on Dec 2, 2003 11:57:13 GMT -5
What evidence is there that Dean is being bankrolled by Republicans? I don't see how anyone at the "just us citizens" level can get accurate knowledge of something so hush-hush. He's got plenty of faults, but he is the leading contender in active pursuit of the Democratic nomination, unlike Al. Dean is working hard, full-time, overtime, right now. If Gore doesn't jump in NOW, I am going to take him at his word and believe that he doesn't want to be a candidate. Waterless urinals appear to be more on Al's mind than running for President. It's a shame. I WANT Al Gore to become President in 2004. I want Al Gore to either get in NOW, or stop giving speeches that make hard-core Goristas hope against hope that his candidacy will actually happen. There just isn't enough time, and wishing won't make it so. Dean's organization is a couple of magnitudes higher than the grassroots efforts for Gore at this and other sites. And he keeps surprising people with how well put-together his candidacy is. He may be smarter than you think. I saw a very smart, relaxed, and determined individual on Hardball - someone I could respect as a President, unlike Bush. The biggest stumble I've seen is the Confederate flag decal debacle. I'll tell you something - the flag today isn't so much about racism as it is to say, I am one tough individual. It no more means the Confederacy and slavery now than the Nazi helmets and swastikas worn by the Hells Angels in the 60's meant that they were followers of Hitler; they were just meant to say, I am one tough individual. I grew up in Florida, '56-'65. I know that flag. Maybe - God help us - maybe Al's time is over. Maybe he had that one chance, and he blew it. I think he was naive to believe that the Supreme Court would render an honest judgment. He could have had us in the streets, but chose a better course for the nation and withdrew, possibly even believing that the simpering chimp would try to bring the country together.
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Post by ErinB on Dec 2, 2003 13:28:01 GMT -5
NO WAY! GORE BLEW NOTHING! I KNOW THERE IS A HARD ROAD AHEAD BUT HE WILL TAKE THAT OATH OF OFFICE ON JANUARY 20, 2005. YOU WILL SEE. PERHAPS WE NEEDED TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON BY THAT SMIRKING CHIMP ALTHOUGH THAT LESSON HAS BEEN AWFULLY EXPENSIVE. MANY MORE PEOPLE WILL VOTE NOW THAN EVER BEFORE.
Please excuse me now I have to go collect signatures for a democratic senatoral candidate so Al will have something to work with when he takes office.
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Post by GoreSupporterNJ on Dec 2, 2003 14:43:28 GMT -5
What evidence is there that Dean is being bankrolled by Republicans? I don't see how anyone at the "just us citizens" level can get accurate knowledge of something so hush-hush. He's got plenty of faults, but he is the leading contender in active pursuit of the Democratic nomination, unlike Al. Dean is working hard, full-time, overtime, right now. If Gore doesn't jump in NOW, I am going to take him at his word and believe that he doesn't want to be a candidate. Waterless urinals appear to be more on Al's mind than running for President. It's a shame. I WANT Al Gore to become President in 2004. I want Al Gore to either get in NOW, or stop giving speeches that make hard-core Goristas hope against hope that his candidacy will actually happen. There just isn't enough time, and wishing won't make it so. Dean's organization is a couple of magnitudes higher than the grassroots efforts for Gore at this and other sites. And he keeps surprising people with how well put-together his candidacy is. He may be smarter than you think. I saw a very smart, relaxed, and determined individual on Hardball - someone I could respect as a President, unlike Bush. The biggest stumble I've seen is the Confederate flag decal debacle. I'll tell you something - the flag today isn't so much about racism as it is to say, I am one tough individual. It no more means the Confederacy and slavery now than the Nazi helmets and swastikas worn by the Hells Angels in the 60's meant that they were followers of Hitler; they were just meant to say, I am one tough individual. I grew up in Florida, '56-'65. I know that flag. Maybe - God help us - maybe Al's time is over. Maybe he had that one chance, and he blew it. I think he was naive to believe that the Supreme Court would render an honest judgment. He could have had us in the streets, but chose a better course for the nation and withdrew, possibly even believing that the simpering chimp would try to bring the country together. >>>>>>>>> Perhaps you need to find a Howard Dean forum, because this doesn't fly here and I won't change my mind about Al Gore and I WON'T GIVE UP ON HIM. Dean is Rove's WET DREAM, and if he gets the nomination you might as well say hello to four more years of Bush. I'n sure the Hillary crowd will thank you too. Jan
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